What started out as a conversation about the ideas of Carlos Castaneda, which we do at the beginning with Intent, later becomes a talk about the current world insanity and how we can use these challenges to go deeper into ourselves and reality.

Perhaps readying us for something that could be quite a surprise at the end- all the while not pretending that the challenges now and to come are not great.


Bart discusses the amazing idea that we are now in a “new spiritual age,” meaning we have to be creating a completely new pathway through these times. He discuses other subjects such as the shape of the earth, historical resets and others to give a more clear perspective of where we are and where we might be headed, and some key stories from his own life journey. A wonderful conversation.

Bart on Conscious TV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCirEL0bchw

Bart’s Amazon book page
https://www.amazon.com/Bart-Marshall/e/B00MCJS522%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share

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Justhere Forthefood
Justhere Forthefood
3 months ago

This was amazing. So much of this is stuff I think about all the time lately and it is so refreshing to hear people truly addressing on a deep level what’s really going on and how we might respond to it. It seems we have a frequency enmeshment here-I think Matt has talked about that. Like Bart said, we are not solid objects separate from each other-our energies interact…even beyond 6 feet!

Patrick Norton
Patrick Norton
3 months ago

Fantastic chat!

EthericBliss -EB
EthericBliss -EB
3 months ago

Excellent conversation. Thank you for sharing this with us. MUCH appreciated!! : )

Edit: Keyboard “hiccups” (spelling).

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Sean Clarke
Sean Clarke
3 months ago

Thanks Howdie, great talk! Yes, when I witnessed the vast majority of so called teachers and spiritual communities fold in the face of at the very least questionable, and quite frankly obvious false narrative—when in the natural structure of things these would be the figures and characters we’d expect to stand strong. Well, that was I suppose the second great shock, or perhaps the third.

The first thunder if you will was that “they” (or the aspect of our Self plunged into deception) pulled it off.

The second was how rapidly and deeply the populace bought in.

And thirdly, how easily and quickly the so called Spiritual communities buckled and failed to stand up…

On the plus side I suppose it cleared the way for a new (or revived) generation of more genuine seeking. At least for those willing to go with that potentiality—like yourself.

Really appreciate the work you do Howdie, thankyou

Jeremiah O'Brien
Jeremiah O'Brien
3 months ago
Reply to  Sean Clarke

I think I’m going to print this comment and put it on a business card and hand it out to these useless fuggin eaters…. I appreciate YOU Sean Clarke… Slainte!!!

Candice Bella
Candice Bella
3 months ago

Who do you consider a useless eater?

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Darryl Macks
Darryl Macks
3 months ago

Thank you both!!! Awesome insights.

Darryl Macks
Darryl Macks
3 months ago

One thing Bart mentions, that I also realized a few years ago was the Harvesting of Souls aspect thru the countless wars of destruction.

Jeremiah O'Brien
Jeremiah O'Brien
3 months ago

This was really great,I personally feel like I am right in line with everything you guys are speaking about here. It really makes me feel proud to be part of this tribe. One thing although I really have in common w Matt is RAGE….. lol…. I see it Matt… lol….. F THOSE MOTHER KILLERS!! hahahahah

Jeremiah O'Brien
Jeremiah O'Brien
3 months ago

I apologize … I meant Bart…. not our other friend Matt… edit didn’t work

Ashman Mann
Ashman Mann
3 months ago

We need many braves … stay fit and strong and your energy will be called upon.

Chelsea Chase
Chelsea Chase
3 months ago

Grateful to have started my day listening to your talk with Bart. Thankful to be a part of this tribe as well. At times I felt as though I had a scoreboard and was judging myself, with a big smile because I felt as though I was getting high marks with big high fives 🙂 this is the best apocalypse ever, and the greatest education opportunity the world has ever seen. For those who have ears to hear let him hear, for those who have eyes to see, let him see. I am amazed at the levels of compassion this is last year has grown within me. My anxiety , frustration, feelings of betrayal, have transformed into feelings of excitement, peaceful, yet adventurous, sometimes even outrageous, just to swim against the current and feel the Bliss of the resistance. I stand with you all, as truthful and as vulnerable and a strong and courageous as I possibly can be.

Justhere Forthefood
Justhere Forthefood
3 months ago
Reply to  Chelsea Chase

Every day we get to wake up in the Apocalypse. How awesome is that! If that doesn’t get you flying out of bed, nothing will.

John Flynn
John Flynn
3 months ago

Christmas day I tried the occulus. I have hated the idea and have no interest in trying it again. My Aunt and Uncle bought it for their grandkids. I was hesitant. I put it on walked into the circle and rode a rollercoaster ride. It was so lifelike I almost fell on the ground multiple times. When I took it off after 10 minutes. Everything looked different. The first thought was am I wearing a different type of VR? It was so lifelike but not and could be very addictive. Now today I’m thinking maybe those fucks got a free iris scan. Friends dont let friends VR ha. Howdie Thanks for the introduction to Bart. I am now almost truly alone and its partly because of the warnings I gave the last few years and my own personality traits of always speaking truth. But I have been through a hell of a life at 37. Now Jobeless, with a cat, enough wood and food but I have to remind myself that I am blessed. Gotta get over the small mound of insecurity I have built this month. Thank you.

Water Man
Water Man
3 months ago

Im posting this because it is the ONLY time I have heard both internal truth and external truth being the only paths, and how so few embrace both.
In my understanding, there are two types of enlightenments, and two paths that all seekers must follow on their Journey here on Shkakami-Kwe(Earth Mother). I have experienced disappointment that there are those who walk only one path, or the other, and this leaves the souls Journey incomplete, especially in the times we are facing.
The first path is the external path. This is the path where we the initiates, will start to question our external reality(as opposed to our internal being). It will soon become apparent to the the ones who do this with integrity and self-honesty, that the external truth cannot possibly be a source of any truth. Investigations into, the lies we are told, the grand illusion of our world and essentially the enlightenment, that all we are told is a lie. In this stage the seeker will explore many external rabbit holes. This usually alters their consciousness, since the realization that nothing that comes from mainstream sources, is true, in any geopolitical world events, and that there is an ‘inversion’ of all truth, and that this is a deliberate act by the overlords of this world. This path generally is the starting point although it does not have to be this way. It also opens the initiate up for more powerful experiences. Self-honesty(as brutal as it is) and a desire to take, what is now called the “red pill” understanding of our world.
After some time exploring the lies, and deception of the external world, the initiate may start to understand the true nature of our reality- the Illusion of Control.
Generally this is where many alter course. There are so many rabbit holes, and they are so deep that none ever uncover the absolute truth of the external world. What my people call “The Great Mystery.
This is when the self-honest seeker, will after realizing there is no source of real truth in the external world, turn inwards, to discover their own divine truth. This is the second path. The internal truth of our being and self. This path has many facets, and for each person, there will be an individual path, for there are no two paths alike on this journey.
Both paths are difficult. The very nature of any spiritual path is isolation, loss of friends, and family members, loneliness, and shaken faith. once on the path, you can never return or go back. But it is here that both paths of the internal and external reality become as one. One cannot exist without the other. The inward or mystical journey is both a blessing and curse. It is opaque at best, and fraught with dangers, especially when dealing with the mystical experience. But Once someone has a door opened to this powerful experience, this is when it becomes life altering. The initiate can never truly want anything more. This powerful experience, cannot be described in words. Yet it is just a trickle, of what is the ultimate reality. At the same time, it is important to never forget the external truth as well, and a true medicine man will walk with one foot in the external world, and one foot in the spiritual.
peace! Water~Man.

Timothy Laudeman
Timothy Laudeman
3 months ago
Reply to  Water Man

I’m going to refer back to this often. Wonderful comment. Thank you.

Matej Pfajfar
Matej Pfajfar
3 months ago
Reply to  Water Man

I was never particullary religious person, but I wont forget my “OW FU**” moment, when I was poking around the Flat Earth idea. That was a great startnig Point indeed. I had inner values beffore but I never knew how to use them properley. Because of that I have the feeling, that my spiritual journey is not so hard (aint easy nether) and I am joyfuly connecting the dots. These days I simply feel happy. I have everything I need (spirituala and phisicaly) and I am so grateful for that. For about a year now I am noticing a patern of how I attract other People (that I dont even know) like a magnet when I go outside. That feels kind-of good but it s not what I would consider a goal or achievment. Achievment is sustaining my shit together and beeing happy about it. There s still a long road ahead of me but it s way easier than beffore. At least the objective is on sight.

Ashman Mann
Ashman Mann
3 months ago
Reply to  Matej Pfajfar

Your generated energy pulsating through a carbon Torus creates the magnetism you speak about from your personal experience.

Matt Jones
Matt Jones
3 months ago

Ha I have tried waking people up. It has not worked on a single one. In fact it has had the opposite effect sometimes. Someone I know who was on the fence about getting the vaccine, I told them not too, but since it came from “me” the crazy guy, he went and got it. Almost like they want to do the opposite of what you say, out of revenge or spite for all the times you tried to tell them some truth in the past, and it pissed them off. They HATE truth.
When you tell truth to those who do not want it, you are no longer a credible person to them.

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Eyesee
Eyesee
3 months ago
Reply to  Matt Jones

My experience exactly, going back to the early 80’s if you can believe it! But take any of the “crazy” stuff I’ve said to these people and put it on the evening news and they’ll all believe it and be talking about it around the water cooler the next morning. So many times I’ve had people say, “hey, did you hear…?” and I say, “yeah, I tried to tell you about that 10 years ago but you wouldn’t believe it because I’m not an “authority”…”

Jeremiah O'Brien
Jeremiah O'Brien
3 months ago

OK, I apologize for not keeping my thought in one comment, I’m terrible at that…. So I thought my mind was done being blown a couple years ago, NOPE. LIFE RECAPITULATION!!!! OH MY!! I apologize for bringing up a subject again that I’ve brought up multiple times in comments, It involves my mothers death it was brutal so I apologize for any of my story that is uncomfortable. Yet there is some humor… for that I also apologize. ;0)

My mother died of pancreatic cancer I January 2017… Strangely she was also born in January. She was diagnosed exactly a year prior basically. She and my father told us in December 2015 so its a year. At this same time nobody really knew but my beloved Dog BORU a huge block head of a Chocolate lab also basically had cancer an he was on meds and it was just tearing me apart and then my ma…, He was my EVERYTHING, I also have and had other dogs at the time…. THANK YOU GOD! Also for reference I’ve always been above average in physical and mental strength, But I knew INSTANTLY I was about to go right to the edge at some point. The day after My ma told us I took BORU for a walk alone we had not done that in a long time, its always been “where we go one we go all” with me and the pack but this was different. We went into the forrest and he was still in pretty good shape but we both knew. With all the strength I could muster I PRAYED! Please GOD just give me a year with both of them to say good bye (big tough guy me just broke down for a second remembering ) . God answered me swiftly and I knew my prayer was answered and I got the year! I was able to cope at that point.

Now I’m no doctor AND I had been sober completely for 20 years Guinness and Pot my thing. Always missed the weed more. By the way at this point I am anything but AWAKENED, although spirituality has always meant everything to me. Ok so not a doctor but I knew weed was a cancer “homeopathic” and well…. I know weed…. I used to grow bails!!! Sooooo after 20 years I started a grow hoping to help My Ma and my BORU. I grew 20 lbs of the dankest bud this state had ever seen . I had a 2′ x 2′ cardboard boxes of weed stacked to the ceiling. With no intension of smoking any of it. I introduced my great accomplishment to my family in august 6 months before she passed. Well they were all disgusted w my thought process and basically laughed at me. Thats basically how my story w my family aways was.

At this point in time BORU is declining rapidly and so is my mom and the pain I was internalizing I can barely describe but I think I can capture it pretty well with 2 words. Inconsolable anguish. Sooooo I rolled a monster joint and IT WAS ON!! That September at harvest I started smoking and did not stop for months. I smoked 9 pounds of weed in 9 months and THE LIFE RECAPITULATION STARTED AND I SAW EVERYTHING the way it really happened from the day my sister came home from the hospital and I was 2 EVERYTHING. Shamanic to say the least. I went into the sweat lodge of my mind and I came out a SHANACHIE. 2017 was my great awakening and I saw it all coming, btw I never watched youtube until 2017. I had canceled cable and just changed everything. ALL OF THE TRUTH WAS STILL ON YOUTUBE. I knew instantly whenI saw it it would be GONE very soon. Spent 6 hrs a day for the next 6 most re learning EVERYTHING and bought ALL the books. I now have a $10,000 library of truth that has all but been erased! I earned a self prescribed PHD in TRUTH….. DR. BORU. lol

From birth even thought my Given name is Jeremiah …My fathers name.. They called me Tucker after a football player my pop liked to distinguish us in the household… NOT COOL. anyway, when I was 20 a random woman my friend introduced me to asked my name and reached out to shake my hand as we shook I said Tucker she pulled her hand away and said thats not you name what is it?? My friend explained she was “psychic”. That meant very little to me at the time… I told her JEREMAIH…. She said thats a powerful name… you ARE Jeremiah and when you recognize that and use your real name everything will change.

Without remembering that instance specifically at the time…. WhenI came out of the “weed induced 9 month sweat lodge of my mind” I never introduced myself as Tucker ever again… Some still call me it because I allow it But now everybody knows my real name is JEREMIAH.

Sorry I know this was brutally long, can you believe I wrote it all down that months and I hadn’t read ANY OF IT until just now…. 2017…. here is one sentence… “the people that know won’t talk, and the people that don’t know won’t listen” and it gets even more specific than that but thats the first thing I wrote when I “woke up” in my journal .and there’s 50 pages of content before I got the PHD and began planning my exit of the MATRIX. -Jeremiah (nobody listens to me either) hahahahahahaahahah FUG EM!!

Janet Supriano
Janet Supriano
3 months ago

Exquisite conversation! Thank you, Howdie; Thank you, Bart.
Truly.

Mark Cooper
Mark Cooper
3 months ago

Spirits run the planet, not people. And not all spirits have bodies, nor are they all human.

Ashman Mann
Ashman Mann
3 months ago
Reply to  Mark Cooper

You must condense the vapor to capture the spirit.

Madeline Shockley
Madeline Shockley
3 months ago

Thank You Gentlemen, so refreshing to have confirmed the the knowledge discovered over the past 8-10 years and the discernment that’s grown from it all. Most important is the gratitude I feel every day watching it all play out. Amazing times indeed.

Barbara Gonzalez
Barbara Gonzalez
3 months ago

Absolutely a great video need to do some reading 📚

jeanett bates
jeanett bates
3 months ago

When Bart said everything is a lie, you can see this yourself right now about even the simplest of things taken for granted like eyeglasses, gas powered vehicles, blood pressure, weather. Everything. Pull a string on anything or question one premise and the illusion falls apart. This whole thing relies on us not really looking hard at anything.

Donni C
Donni C
3 months ago

Derrek has some interesting ideas, which I agree with.

https://youtu.be/IOEkb7EwO48

I’d love a convo between you and Wayne Bush of tricked by the light.com website.

I’ve arrived at the place Derrick and Wayne have. I won’t be going through that door or portal without 100% truth. Interesting that we use the same word portal on a computer. Where is that portal going? Will you get an answer, or do you get love bombed or psychically entranced to go along with it…. and here we are.

https://youtu.be/IOEkb7EwO48

Barbara Gonzalez
Barbara Gonzalez
3 months ago

Absolutely great advice….

Candice Bella
Candice Bella
3 months ago

First and foremost, thank you! I would love to contact and converse with Bart Marshall. I was hoping he had a YouTube channel. Can you please make this happen Howie?

Janet Supriano
Janet Supriano
3 months ago
Reply to  Candice Bella

I found a YouTube lecture by Bart Marshall on the Tat Foundation channel. Maybe you can contact Mr. Marshall through that organization?

Candice Bella
Candice Bella
3 months ago
Reply to  Janet Supriano

Thank you Janet for your consideration. I’ll certainly try that.

Eyesee
Eyesee
3 months ago

Great conversation! I too have been disappointed by a prominent herbalist/natural healing advocate I’ve learned from and been inspired by for over 30 years. He’s always been an outspoken firebrand maverick against the medical establishment yet he has pretty much gone dark the past two years. He’s made very few videos for his Youtube channel and hasn’t made any direct commentary on the whole DIVOC nonsense. However he still sends out his monthly marketing email for his herbal products business as if life has been perfectly normal the past two years. It’s apparent he’s keeping his mouth shut because of the potential impact it would have on his very successful business.

Neil Barker
Neil Barker
3 months ago

Thanks for sharing this discussion, Howdie. I wasn’t familiar with Bart Marshall and his books.

Both of you made some excellent points and I sense that you’ve both given me a few more points to consider and help me on my own spiritual path. The points about the 3D world and life choices some around us have made reminds me of Matt’s “Jacob Marley Chains” analogy. Being too rooted to things and possessions weigh us down.

I am really aligned with the point you both made about walking with one foot in one world and another foot in another world at the same time. Going through the mundane tasks and routine of the 9-5 feels like a character in a play at times. I’ve had a few years of practice at this and this mindset. Sometimes, I am almost able to predict what will happen at a micro level like exact phrases colleagues will say or actions they will do. Oddly, I sense it’s an inner knowing from elsewhere. Like a script broadcast into the ether.

Again, thanks for this discussion and looking forward to more of these types of discussions as they provide us valuable insights not filtered by the WOPR or whatever runs the 3D place. Thanks for sharing.

Colin Chicoine
Colin Chicoine
3 months ago

Hello fellow earthlings.

The concept of a lie vs true vs truth is man’s arrogant creation.
Any man that lives in truth of life will speak the following words.
There is no lie, all is true and all truths belongs to God.
Finding words to speak for blind men to paint within ones temple to see is an art very few possess for most temples are destroyed and inhabited by sin parasites.

I am here yet I still am where I was.
I am here yet I know I have become.

Arrogance is the cause of man’s blindness.

Genesis 1 is overlooked by so many if not all.
Is this not the origin of our current world? Some say not. I say we will see.
What came first, time or the separation of the waters? How about you?

God plays with us in way so few care to see.
All serious in trying to figure out how this realm works thus missing the moments God smiles at us. Hide and seek I play. Sometimes he lets me win for a brief moment.

Some say you only have one life to live and then some say you live many lives.
Both are true but not truth.
Exist do you not? Are you not eternal? If you are is that living? Will you exist in life or exist in death? For eternity?
What is truth of life?
Well choose ones eternal existence in life through truth and experience through the gift of time the story of ones becoming I say.

Death is indistinguishable from birth.

Time is Gods gift to us to experience through choice, ones witness of endless moments of the greatest gift of all. Ones becoming! God’s spoken words, vibrations on ones canvas of reality. The truth of you.

Is this truth? You tell me!
Do you see where truth resides?

The endless battles within ones temple will be won from within ones path in heart.

You can not wakeup our brothers and sisters from eternal sleep. All you can do and must do is see them for what they truly are, what was once You. Will this moment of realization, revelation teach you the wisdom of patience and know your source? Are you still in the playpen getting angry at toddlers?

Some seek space yet fail to see they are in a suit of flesh and blood within time’s space.
Some seek truth yet refuse to focus through past sins.
Some seek alternate realities and want to travel back in time or the future. We are but to do so is death. Or is it birth? Hummm. Could IT be you are outside time right now?

Time is absolutely amazing.

There are endless doors, and doors within doors that lead to the first door you opened. There is only one path out and this truth has been with us since our beginning.

Silver robe, shields his crimson red heart.

Ashman Mann
Ashman Mann
3 months ago
Reply to  Colin Chicoine

You will learn by the numbers, I will teach you. You will become ministers of life ; praying for change.

Colin Chicoine
Colin Chicoine
3 months ago
Reply to  Ashman Mann

Hello Ashman.

Could you be more specific about “learning by” and The numbers”?

I am with teacher so who are you claiming to be?

Life ministers life. Life does not need man to minister life’s presences. Life ministers man. Tobe in life one must first accept what one is. Then wills one life begins.

Praying for change? I do not understand.

GEOFFREY ROXBOROUGH
GEOFFREY ROXBOROUGH
3 months ago

Jesus really is the truth, seek and you shall find! 🌈

Paul Hogsten
Paul Hogsten
3 months ago

Luke 21:26
Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

Ash Sharpe
Ash Sharpe
3 months ago

About that whole simulation or computer topic, yeah, its possible but it doesn’t really solve anything, say you are in a VR system or sorts, once you break out of that there could be another layer on top and so on, but eventually you’d have to reach the ‘real world’ and I whose to say that the ‘real world’ is not spiritual in nature ? I think the influencers / global cabal push the simulation idea to mock spirituality and make people deepen their belief in athiesm, its also a convenient way to disregard any paranormal experiences people might have or ones which can’t be easily obfuscated by the media, it could also have been done in response to the Mandela Effect if they were concerned about some sort of mass awakening phenomena.

People that have studied the mandela effect deeply however have concluded that there is an AI like quality to some of the things it does, like leaving residue if it can’t recognize it as being the concept it wants to change, hence all the drawings that are unchanged such as The Simpsons episodes. Theres no proof that the entity or technology responsible for the M.E. is the original creator of this place though / the god of the bible.

Neil Barker
Neil Barker
3 months ago
Reply to  Ash Sharpe

Agreed on the AI/VR/simulation theory. Chasing that is like goldfish in a fishbowl realizing that the ocean is a block away and their reality is constructed and spending the rest of my life seeking truth in who or what constructed my environment. I think I’d rather spend my time seeking truth in everything…what is everything…and realizing that ‘there is no spoon’ to borrow that phrase.

The ME is fascinating to me and I have several. More strange than my MEs though, is that there is a part of my self, the mundane day-to-day character self, that tries to play itself off as “you’re mis-remembering.” However, there’s a deeper inner-knowing that smiles and recognizes that the mundane self is attempting a sleight of hand to get me to go along.

Ashman Mann
Ashman Mann
3 months ago

When I started counting my blessings; my whole life turned around! – Willie Nelson_

Ashman Mann
Ashman Mann
3 months ago

BOSS LEVEL! What did you do to get ready standing in the arcade at the penultimate moment at your favorite game? You: dried your hands and brow, you reached a supreme calmness, you put your fingers in just the right spot, you put your feet shoulder space apart and bent your knees and created tension and energy, you concentrated deeply and got on a higher frequency to get ready for the fast boss. Memory and wisdom, remember you have to jump twice and throw it right in his eye. All your friends all stop talking, and the noise and distractions all fade away. You are one with the controls and are ready to dish out a superhuman performance. Strategy and Tactics, : Control, Discipline, Forbearance, Timing and Will. Will be required to win the final level. You know what happens after you defeat the final level of Metroid? Please comment the game that you defeated through tremendous effort and a lot of quarters.

Ashman Mann
Ashman Mann
3 months ago
Reply to  Ashman Mann

Shinobi

C T
C T
3 months ago

Amazing surprise stumbling across Bart Marshall here. I guess I did this backwards as I found the spiritual path, then what Bart refers to as the red pill path as opposed to the other way around.

I wholeheartedly agree that the latter community is a breath of fresh air and seems to be where more truth can be found, especially lately. I’m just pleased to see more and more crossover between the two communities , although not surprising – truth is truth and those looking for it tend to find it in all aspects of this weird ride we find ourselves on. Just discovering Howdie – happy I did!

Scott Dalziel
Scott Dalziel
3 months ago

That was an outstanding discussion. I really enjoyed listening to both your perspectives. It would be wonderful if you and Bart could get together to have another discussion, as you both raise some great pointers. Many thanks.

Servant Of Manifestation
Servant Of Manifestation
3 months ago

Great Conversation!! And I agree… with regard to the “It’s time to step up.”

I can recall that in the 2-3 years prior to March 2020, I had kind of come to the conclusion that I didn’t really care where this show goes… it wasn’t relevant. By April of 2020 a switch was flipped and I unexpectedly found the expression “Fuck No” emerging from me. (Prior I kind of had a New Age ‘Yes’ to everything kind of perspective.)

My response has been to ‘prep’…. to drop dependency at every opportunity that arises… wherever I find a directive from the spirit, or an actionable item. I don’t help anybody directly… but I share what I have learned where it is applicable. I have no Tribe… but am fine with All+One = Alone.

I do, however, question the applicability of the ‘Petty Tyrant’ approach in these Tyrannical Times. In Castaneda’s stories about Juan Matus, ‘Don Juan’ was faced with a ‘Boss’ who had a ‘Higher Power’ above the ‘Boss’ (the ‘Plantation Owners’). The technique used there was to turn the ‘Higher Power’ against the ‘Boss’… and in the end Juan Matus still got shot… although he did survive.

There is no higher power to appeal to here. I have yet to see that anybody is coming to save us… or that there are ‘other forces’ at work that could be used as shields or weapons against the principles that have aligned. I like to reference ‘Infinity’ as the ‘Higher Power’… but it doesn’t care… so ego adopting Infinity/Truth as identity doesn’t work. I can only conclude that it is on us.

Even in the case of Castaneda vs La Gorda… La Gorda was hardly a murderess… unlike the forces described in our time.

We could go the ‘Worthy Opponent’ route here as well. However, even that scenario pits a Dona Solidad in an individual ‘personal’ battle… same with La Catalina. What is missing with the ‘smart story approach’ is Maya… the Context…. the Outer or Final Limit… the Big/Last Picture… The Eagle.

The way I see it… each individual who comes to enforce this stuff on me is part of a contentious conversation between myself and that part of the limiting context… i.e. Maya… or Captain Ahab’s White Whale… or the Buddha’s Mara. It’s about saying ‘No’… ‘come what may’. I’ll knock down every word it uses to confine me… even it if it kills me.. or I have to kill the messenger. I will never accept imprisonment.

Weird…. I have never thought that way until this all this started. I didn’t even know it was there. But I’m kind of happy that it showed up.

Rick Godley
Rick Godley
3 months ago

While I don’t doubt the concept of some ‘die-offs’ or population reduction scenario. I’ve always wondered why we pass along the figure of 8 billion people figure as if we know that’s true. I don’t resonate with that #, not that I have a clue as to what the actual # is, all I’m saying is, no one really knows for sure. Do they? Thanks for the talk.

Remember, the tares are removed 1st and the wheat is left behind.

Marcus Taylor
Marcus Taylor
3 months ago

I said I thought lots of people had been wiped out before. If you look at the birth rates in developing countries without contraception and take into account higher mortality rates the worlds population would have been over 7 billion people many years ago.
I’ve never looked at mudflood or tartari but the numbers don’t add up without some sort of intervention.

Mallorie Ryan
Mallorie Ryan
3 months ago

I so appreciated this interview….all very relevant. Thank you Howdie and Bart!

Matthew Miller
Matthew Miller
3 months ago

Thanks so much guys. This really connected on so many levels. Peace

William Jeffreys
William Jeffreys
3 months ago

As someone who picked up on Carlos Castaneda in the late 60’s and followed until the end, I can assure you the teachings are completely valid and applicable. I certainly cannot vouch for how much is fiction, but the outlooks, the methods, the teachings are priceless windows into the true nature of reality(s).

jeanett bates
jeanett bates
3 months ago

William, do you think it matters if it is fiction? If what it says is applicable and works, what would the difference be? It seems to me that being strictly literal or material minded might be part of why people around me can’t see what’s up.

Didier FABRE
Didier FABRE
3 months ago

The more I ponder about what is “Life” here on this so called Planet Earth “reality”, the more I come to the conclusion that it’s an endless nightmare of suffering and pain on every level.
Now I stopped hoping for a “solution” to wake people up, that’s completely useless !
Those who can see the lies and the manipulations (without understanding the why ?) are as cursed as the stupid masses who watch TV !
I think that there is no “love” in this universe, but only Evil Power …
“god” or “the big source” or the “big creator” is just another BIG LIE !!!!!!
A Kelt from Gaul.

jeanett bates
jeanett bates
3 months ago

Did anyone else get the image of an arc in the sky? Maybe that is why it is so hard to find doors in this thing.

Tj Smyth
Tj Smyth
3 months ago

Oh boy, taking my time unpacking this discussion. Well done sirs. Peace

Virginia Murray
Virginia Murray
3 months ago

I’m to the point of seeking spiritual truth, I’ve been listening to Rudolph Steiner lectures on spiritual science. How do I get in touch with Bart?

Joey Rangek
Joey Rangek
3 months ago

Interesting perspective. Before anything, note that religion is merely consistent practice and one is wholly spiritual. god is

Question; Howdie, when your “ego” dies, what remains? Is it the thing out there or in here? Is the “god” mentioned here, ¿out there, like something that we seek for personal gain? Novate ones ego

Cool chat tho. Howdie looks pumped 👍🏻🌮

Joey

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Didier FABRE
Didier FABRE
3 months ago

So what ?? Why is it so long to get an “approval” on our comment ?
Are we here on another “matirix platform” ??

Akeoeka Willbarri
Akeoeka Willbarri
3 months ago

Thank you Howdie for your courage and insight, much appreciated in this current climate.

If this experience is indeed all within the mind or God, which makes sense inside the dreamlike nature of perception then all our interactions are a kind or mirroring, awareness interacting with different parts of the self.

All analogies, like the game are valid, it is the level of quality changes from individual to individual. Are we all in the game of life? Do we level up with each challenge faced?

I was listening to you talking about preparing meals the other day and I wanted to share my physical experience with fasting and urine therapy. Most will balk, even those that consider themselves well awoken. That is fine, this is for those that resonate with the opportunity.

Consider that your body was grown within first your mother’s, then your own urine in the womb.
Consider that our psychologically warped culture will use ridicule to hide truth.
Consider that perhaps one of the very real problems that are coming soon, that of starvation, could be overcome by looping one’s own waters and using breath work to be able to survive on liquids alone.
Consider how you will be able to stop the world more frequently when your whole vessel is cleaner.
Consider that perhaps the creator, gave us certain tools to access truth within the body, such as the chrism oil and urine.

I came across the idea of urine therapy a few years ago in the midst of searching about mud floods and toroidal flat planes and could see the potential there. Was not until I experimented with looping, that I found that I had more energy on a day drinking liquid alone and looping with what science calls my ultra filtered plasma. What really convinced me even after months of looping and eating a whole foods vegan diet was the aged urine that cured a very painful tooth infection. Not something I trusted a dentist to help me with being without full time work due to my unwillingness to comply with pharmaceutical coercion.

I will continue to experiment and I imagine continue to benefit from what I believe is a physical, alchemical process towards healing and self acceptance. It can be a strong taste at times, depending on what you consume, if you loop consistently though it becomes cleaner and clearer.

I will cost you nothing but the fear that you will be misunderstood, to be fair, I tell almost no one that I do this, I don’t expect many people to understand, innerstand or resonate. I’m more than sure many have reached a high quality of consciousness without drinking their own waters, it is not for everyone.

It may however save your life when things get even harder than they are now, investigate, experiment, who knows, it may make the transition easier.

The creator is all things, I imagine, feel, propose. Both good and evil, it is hard for us to come to terms with. All the things we put forward are done so with a limited ability, all our technology, from this age and the from the old world will always be variations on the inherent intelligence that allows the natural world to operate with such finesse and beauty. Variations and replications.

It is good to feel part of tribe of like minded souls, this is a paradox of course, non of us an island all of us connected yet ultimately we must face this experience alone. Alone yet always with the all that is.

So strange, so captivating, what will happen next? Will I be one of the survivors?
Will I get to the good times? Wishful thinking, naive possibly, little childlike or irresponsible perhaps? So many ways to trap the ego, to siphon attention this way and that.

Howdie, you and the many that speak out are to be commended for being a warrior to inspire us, we are spirits alighting vessels through many different realms, may I find the true one, follow the path with the heart.

Warm Regards,
Akeoeka

Karen H
Karen H
3 months ago

Such an interesting conversation. I first heard of Bart within the last two weeks and have watched him on the TAT channel (I think) and he gave a very moving presentation which I really enjoyed. Howdie, I also recently watched a discussion with you regarding your own experience with your awakening (an nde of sorts?)

This (life in general at the moment) is a vexing time for me. Up until September last year I was a normie just living my life with some interest in law of attraction but no spiritual beliefs. When the plandemic started I was as sucked in as any normie but was thinking ahead to mandatory shots and limited freedoms if you didn’t want to get a shot. So I kept abreast of things with a keen interest in personal freedoms. I don’t have FB or IG so my only social media is YT. I ended up joining Twitter and got red pilled and went down so many rabbit holes and honestly thought I was having a breakdown because my belief system was shattered. It was so destabilising.

In November I had this thought about only consciousness existing and discovered non duality and deleted my Twitter, mostly stopped checking the news and kept myself from checking in with any channels I’d been following regarding the reset.

For a while I felt a sense of peace and convinced myself that this is just a dream and that we are all one, yadda yadda yadda but in the last few weeks I’ve been questioning that. I watched so many NDE stories over the Christmas break and thought, “that’s it! We do live on as a soul and there is a loving god, etc) but then thought that can’t be right if we are all only the one consciousness how can we be having these experiences after death? Would we just be gone if we aren’t separate?

So then I stumbled on to the idea that we are on a prison planet and that the love and light we feel when we are on the other side is a trap to get us back into reincarnation so we can be farmed for loosh. :/

It’s just a never ending cycle of searching for truth, thinking you’ve got it sorted, and then realising you haven’t and starting the search again.

Anyway it was lovely to watch and listen to you and Bart and I’ll do my best to help my fellow human between now and the mass die off and to not jump into the first cab that comes by when I am standing on the curb of the fresh out of earth soul airport.

Gabriel McLoughlin
Gabriel McLoughlin
3 months ago

Howdie just want to say that I am delighted to see you here on freeVoice, love your work.
Looking forward to seeing all your uploads. Cheers Gabriel ☀️

Joel Schibbelhute
Joel Schibbelhute
3 months ago

I’m not trying to start a firestorm, this is an honest question. I’ve been a member of the TAT Foundation for years and have a great deal of respect for Bart and this interview was great job by Howdie. I’ve never heard Bart talk about Castenada or the Law of One. Loved that!

This is my question. I’ve never taken the Flat Earth thing seriously because it just doesn’t seem to make sense and most of the videos I have listened to sound flakey as hell. But if Bart and Howdie take it seriously I’m willing to listen. Can anyone point me to a serious explanation of the theory?

Curt F
Curt F
2 months ago

Bart said “there’s no science that points to a spherical earth”. He’s a good guy, but sadly he seems incapable of following rational/scientific thought. Get on a phone/video call with friends in different parts of the planet. Why is day in some places, night in others, dawn in others, sunset in others?

Everything Is Upside Down
Everything Is Upside Down
1 month ago

Thank you.

I was asking God for insight on some issues yesterday and this was placed in front of me.

I am grateful you shared this conversation with us. Thank you.

Haven’t been able to put Bart’s ‘Becoming Vulnerable to Grace’ book down (got the digital version from that mass seller). I spent may years in Viet Nam, Laos and Cambodia (Indo-Chine), have always wanted to know more about a soldiers life and learn from much older truth seekers.

Bart isn’t one of those hippy-dippy navel-gazers or such alike – a regular guy like me who God chose to be a truth seeker. He is significantly more experienced in some areas such as war and also much more accomplished than I at this stage of my life. Looking forward to probably finishing his book tonight.

Most grateful!

Peace

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